BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

[Caged]

Because it's unlikely they will overbuild an area that already has better than standard FTTC installed

Not sure there's any correlation there. I know of an area that took until June 2019 to get FTTC, then got G.fast in 2020 and was upgraded to FTTP three weeks ago.

Decisions over whether to deploy FTTP are based around the cost of doing it, and the local competition.

 

[RSR]

If anyone has had Openreach FTTP installed recently, which is delievered by a pole have they installed a Openreach CSP box or have they gone straight from pole to where it needs to go?

As for me, the current line doesn't go anywhere near ground level, I guess I will find out in a few weeks. On another good bit of news, we also have another provider building into the area which offers solutions upto 10Gb and it seems cheaper then O/R providers offers.

 

[Caged]

They will bring the line down to ground level to join the inside cable in the CSP. They won't work with a splicer up a ladder.

 

[RSR]

This is going to be interesting then, as it will most likey need to be internal then. I'll speak to OR again as they didn't seem to think its a problem.

 

[Caged]

Depending on the engineer you get on the day you might find they are OK to bring the overhead cable into a (boarded, accessible) loft space and put the splice there

 

[robj20]

Isn't the whole point having it easily accessible outside so they can do repairs easily with no access to the home.

 

[RSR]

Depending on the engineer you get on the day you might find they are OK to bring the overhead cable into a (boarded, accessible) loft space and put the splice there

It's got 25mm conduit (MK) run to where it needs to go with space to install the CSP there if needed, ive put all the draw cables in place ready for it. So there is no need to even go in the loft but that is boarded out.

 

[Caged]

Oh in that case you'll be fine. It's when people expect Openreach engineers to be fishing wires inside walls that things tend to come apart quite quickly. You need to have the CSP because the drop cable has to be connected to an internal cable somehow - they can't fit the fibre connector onto the drop cable.

 

[RSR]

Isn't the whole point having it easily accessible outside so they can do repairs easily with no access to the home.

Normally yes, but there no cables on the front of the house for easy access.

 

[RSR]

Oh in that case you'll be fine. It's when people expect Openreach engineers to be fishing wires inside walls that things tend to come apart quite quickly. You need to have the CSP because the drop cable has to be connected to an internal cable somehow - they can't fit the fibre connector onto the drop cable.

I would never do that, partly because I don't know what that engineers level of work is like which is why I prep stuff all ready for them.

 

[Caged]

Also having the fibre cable accessible doesn't really help much - Virgin Media have their boxes on the front of the house because coaxial cable is connectorized, they can go around and disconnect people and test the network at those points. The CSP contains a spliced joint - you can't get to it to diagnose anything unless you cut it. The only advantage of having the CSP is that it allows Openreach to replace your cable without you needing to be home, which is a very unlikely scenario as you'd want to be home anyway to check that your internet has come back up, and isn't worth having to live with cables down the front of your house every day for the once in 20 year time it might be needed.

I'm underground fed so it's not an issue because the CSP just replaces the existing cover where the copper line goes through the wall, but if I was overhead I'd want the cable to go straight into the loft space as well.

 

[robj20]

Normally yes, but there no cables on the front of the house for easy access.

Cable to the house down the wall, splice point, cable back up the wall and inside your house.

 

[RSR]

Cable to the house down the wall, splice point, cable back up the wall and inside your house.

They would need to go around windows and all sorts, so that won't happen easily.

 

[VaderDSL]

When did they switch back to CSP? When we had FTTP a few years back they got rid of CSP and ours is just a connectorised install.

 

[Caged]

It's been spliced for a while now, the field-fit connectors that went onto the internal part of the normal drop cable had too high a failure rate.

 

[VaderDSL]

It's been spliced for a while now, the field-fit connectors that went onto the internal part of the normal drop cable had too high a failure rate.

Cheers! I can imagine, poor guy who did ours was his first day on his own installing it, took him over an hour to get a successful fit that day.

 

[ic1male]

That splicing seems so intricate when you see it on YouTube. It’s a wonder it works at all. My engineer did say it could break at any time though. Eventually they could end up spending more time fixing existing installations than they do connecting up new ones.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Openreach Reveal 56 New UK FTTP Broadband Rollout Areas

In an unexpected move, Openreach (BT) has today added 56 new locations (towns and villages) to their £15bn rollout for a new gigabit-capable Fibre-to-the-Premi

www.ispreview.co.uk

My area has finally been added to Openreach's FTTP rollout

 

[MissChief]

Looking at the list, England. England everywhere. Still not even on the build plan for my area.

 

[Uther]

BT have sent me a smart hub 2 to replace my old hub as I'm moving over to digital voice, I assume once set up I can just go into settings and change the new hubs details to my old network name and wifi password to save having to re connect all my devices?