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Wow, Sato hits the wall and still goes twelfth. He won’t keep it but that was pretty good.
Well, you say that... The session was stopped due to lightning a few runs later (nobody beat his time), then resumed with a couple more runs (no faster), then more lightning and rain came, and last I saw there was no chance of any more running as the track was soaking, so incredibly he will go into the fastest 12 running tomorrow.

Still, he shouldn't have needed to. He only had to do that second run because he made a stupid mistake holding up Andretti by not entering the pits on the backstraight. This is his 13th Indy 500, so he knows the drill.
 
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Interesting take on the differences between Hamilton and Russell, and how their respective seasons have started this year, from Ross Brawn.

Will always listen to what Ross says, and with his connections to the teams, you have to consider his words to have a massive amount of truth behind them.

Brawn, though, understands Hamilton is compromising his own races to gather data for Mercedes and find solutions for their problems, while Russell has then been free to follow a “more conventional path”.

“These first few races he’s been looking for the solutions and in doing so, he’s been ping-ponging around with different set-ups on the car, trying to reach the solutions,” said Brawn of Hamilton’s strategy.

“He’s probably sacrificing the races in a way to try to get the information and data the team can use to solve the problem."
“That’s the feedback I get from the team, while George is following a more conventional path…and Lewis is trying to set out to solve the problem.

“That’s why I think people saying George has outqualified and outraced him in the last few races can’t see the bigger picture.”


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Pretty much what happened to Vettle isn’t it?

Once the car fundamentally changed due to regs, he went backwards and his younger, more adaptable team mate overtook him.
 
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Interesting take on the differences between Hamilton and Russell, and how their respective seasons have started this year, from Ross Brawn.

Will always listen to what Ross says, and with his connections to the teams, you have to consider his words to have a massive amount of truth behind them.

Interesting. Thanks.
 
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George can drive round the issue or doesn’t allow it to affect his driving whereas Lewis struggles with the car as it is?
Or George gets exactly the same car every race so gets used to how it drives.
While Hamilton gets new parts and setup changes every race, so has to learn the differences and changes every time.

Always two sides to, and two ways to view, every situation.
 
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To be fair if I was Lewis I’d be thinking along the same lines. It’d be very hard to win this year, seen as nothing is changing next year why not spend the whole year improving the car and testing for all eventualities. Mind you, weren’t they supposed to be concentrating on this car all last season as well :o
 
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To be fair if I was Lewis I’d be thinking along the same lines. It’d be very hard to win this year, seen as nothing is changing next year why not spend the whole year improving the car and testing for all eventualities. Mind you, weren’t they supposed to be concentrating on this car all last season as well :o

Porpoising caught them all by surprise. Judging by last race, the car is pretty solid once they've got on top of that.
 
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Porpoising caught them all by surprise. Judging by last race, the car is pretty solid once they've got on top of that.
Still it is way to early to judge if Mercs are on top of the porpoiseing.
They had very little at Barcelona pre season testing, then loads at Bahrain in the pre season test.

So Barcelona might just suit their car better.
Will have to wait and see at other tracks, as no one will learn anything at Monaco, as they don't go fast enough for it to occur.
 
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Still it is way to early to judge if Mercs are on top of the porpoiseing.
They had very little at Barcelona pre season testing, then loads at Bahrain in the pre season test.

So Barcelona might just suit their car better.
Will have to wait and see at other tracks, as no one will learn anything at Monaco, as they don't go fast enough for it to occur.

Indeed. But my point is that when the porpoising is under control the car is good. The failure of not predicting the level of porpoising is not Merc's alone; it caught the whole grid out.
 
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Still it is way to early to judge if Mercs are on top of the porpoiseing.
They had very little at Barcelona pre season testing, then loads at Bahrain in the pre season test.

So Barcelona might just suit their car better.
Will have to wait and see at other tracks, as no one will learn anything at Monaco, as they don't go fast enough for it to occur.
Agreed, one race, where they still are experiencing porposing in the corners, does not represent a fix. Let's see how the car performs on longer straights when the ambient temperature is cooler, thus the air more dense..
 
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George can drive round the issue or doesn’t allow it to affect his driving whereas Lewis struggles with the car as it is?

Pretty much what happened to Vettle isn’t it?

Once the car fundamentally changed due to regs, he went backwards and his younger, more adaptable team mate overtook him.
No, that isn't what the Ross Brawn quote infers, at all.
How could you reach that conclusion from reading that?
 
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Call me a cynic but even though Ross Brawn is no longer a part of the team, it's well within his interest talk very positively about the most decelerated driver in the field who is currently struggling with their car and getting beaten by his team mate. Particularly in the context of the rumours of him leaving F1 given how valuable he is as a brand to the sport.

Given the quotes were "Brawn, though, understands" and "He’s probably sacrificing the races" is all rather vague. There is a party line in F1 and Ross was very much sticking to it. Forgive me for not taking what the PR machine says as gospel when there is serious money on the line for the sport.
 
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Porpoising caught them all by surprise. Judging by last race, the car is pretty solid once they've got on top of that.

So solid that they had to crawl to finish line ;)

They certainly looked better and are now easily the best of the rest but still quite far behind the Ferrri and RB.
 
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So solid that they had to crawl to finish line ;)

To be fair, of the top three teams, Merc are the only one to get all their cars to the end of all the races so far.

They certainly looked better and are now easily the best of the rest but still quite far behind the Ferrri and RB.

I think they're pretty close now. Still 3rd but within biting distance, and with the best driver line-up of the three teams.
 
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To be fair, of the top three teams, Merc are the only one to get all their cars to the end of all the races so far.



I think they're pretty close now. Still 3rd but within biting distance, and with the best driver line-up of the three teams.

True though until the last race they couldn't really run their cars at their full performance and in the first race they were able to put more stress on the car they both suffered technical issues.
 
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