Swerving to the opposite side when junction turning?

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I notice this more and more, maybe it's just me and I can't for the life of me think why?

-the turning circles on cars have changed?
-Is some sort of slingshot manoeuvre to gain speed on the exit of swerve ala Star Trek IV?
-Is this now taught in lessons?

rant over :)

I do this most days to get my SUV into my driveway, the car does have poor turning circle and its a narrow road with cars parked on the inside of the entrance which already put you most of the way over, my small cars can do it fine but it's over 90degrees turn and the longer car has no chance, I can of course enter from the other direction without issue but personally don't see an issue if the road is clear.

The Small cars have a 9-10m turning circle so it's easy ( well very tight but don't need much thought) the SUV 12m so it needs a bigger arc, need to give clearance to not clip on the longer car, do similar with trailer attached.

Sometimes if its busy I won't do it as there's not an opening and half the people don't seem alert enough on the road to cope with the manoeuvre, so I'll go up to the mini roundabout to do a U turn, this practice whilst legal and should be safe, seems more dangerous as other drivers can't seem to cope with that either and seem to want to drive into me :rolleyes:
 
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I'm the green car in my lane driving normally, it's folks in the red car trying to crash into me head on rather than moving over a little I take issue with.
No one is trying to crash into you fella some people are not as confident they may well have a bit more difficulty in judging the distance between them and the park cars. They just exercising a little bit of caution and like the other guy said, it’s safer to give yourself a bit more distance.
 
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and massively increasing the risk of a head on collision to do so - I know which I choose, but everyone is different happily.
No one is moving out that far when there is oncoming traffic. Not sure why the subject of oncoming traffic and head on collisions is even being brought up in this thread.
 
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No one is moving out that far when there is oncoming traffic. Not sure why the subject of oncoming traffic and head on collisions is even being brought up in this thread.
Because a small bunch of special idiots think swerving at 30mph onto side roads is "advanced driving" :D:cry::cry::cry::cry:
 
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No one is trying to crash into you fella

No one is moving out that far when there is oncoming traffic.

I love the naivete, like somehow it's easier for you guys to accept the idea that I'm just making things up rather than believe that maybe, just maybe this happens to people more often that you think. Maybe I'm just being unkind, maybe you guys don't ever drive anywhere, ever, and thats why it's such an alien concept, or maybe that I've driven in places where the majority of drivers are bad, who knows :D
 
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I love the naivete, like somehow it's easier for you guys to accept the idea that I'm just making things up rather than believe that maybe, just maybe this happens to people more often that you think. Maybe I'm just being unkind, maybe you guys don't ever drive anywhere, ever, and thats why it's such an alien concept, or maybe that I've driven in places where the majority of drivers are bad, who knows :D
I do plenty of miles roughly 30k a year as part of my job. You’re post doesn’t quite add up. On one hand you say they they drive too far from the parked cars because they are scared of clipping a wing mirror, and on the other hand you say they prefer to drive head on into you risking a far more serious collision. I’ve seen what you’re talking about but not once have I thought that person is trying to ram me l, but rather they struggle to judge the distance on the opposite side of the car from where they are sat.

We all have a tendency from time to time, (some it seems much more than others) to think we are driving perfection and others ought ti be removed from existence immediately. Ego tends to do that.
 
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Because a small bunch of special idiots think swerving at 30mph onto side roads is "advanced driving" :D:cry::cry::cry::cry:
It's not advanced driving per se but is a demonstration of an understanding of physics. Someone who is able to safely maximise efficiency on the road by knowing exactly where to position their car when turning will be able to take this skill to a race track and "instinctively" apply it there with success at higher levels of speed. These techniques can also help you drive safely in bad weather conditions such as snowy roads (making a tight turn without kicking out on an snowy road can lead to spin out... and slowing down too much to make said turn can lead to wheels getting trapped).

I refer to it as more advanced because I actually calculated these things in my first few years of driving. I don't just drive to get from A to B like 99% of people out there... I actually practiced to become better than the average driver.

Anyway... OP is probably on about some highly exaggerated version of this. There is no reason why kicking out a tad should lead to any sort of accident.
 
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:cry::cry::cry::cry: I bow to you, oh driving god. Please impart us with all your driving techniques.
Do racing drivers take the tightest approach to a corner or do they take a wider thus smoother approach? These principles can also apply whilst driving normally. You don’t need to swerve over to the otherside of the road, as has been exaggerated in this thread in order to do it. It’s not advanced driving per se it just common sense.
 
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You make the entry into the corner as wide as possible to minimise amount of steering angle needed and therefore carry more speed through the corner.
What this has to do with turning in a junction at 20MPH I have no idea.
If your struggling to turn the wheel in time making a 90 degree turn at a junction you probably shouldn't be driving.
 
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You make the entry into the corner as wide as possible to minimise amount of steering angle needed and therefore carry more speed through the corner.
What this has to do with turning in a junction at 20MPH I have no idea.
If your struggling to turn the wheel in time making a 90 degree turn at a junction you probably shouldn't be driving.
The same principle applies though. You can take the corner much smoother therefore more stable and more speed if you want too. None of this has anything to do with swerving onto the otherside of the road though neither does it make someone a poor driver.
 
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You should be going as slow as possible into a 90 degree junction in case someone is crossing the road. Optimising the speed you carry through is never a requirement.
 
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You should be going as slow as possible into a 90 degree junction in case someone is crossing the road. Optimising the speed you carry through is never a requirement.
Depends on the road in question though. Not all roads have pedestrians. Its part and parcel of being driver, you drive to the conditions of the road.

On a high street yes, on a busy a or B road you can use a bit of handbrake.
 
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Mostly I think it is lazy steering. Because people don't turn the wheel far/fast enough swinging wide allows them a lazier turn. It's the same with people who cut the centre line when turning right, they turn slightly and early to drive quicker and put in less effort.

If they just steered later moved the wheel and faster they could take the correct line, but that requires more effort from people who these days cannot even be bothered to indicate.
 
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