This is getting ridiculous (energy prices - Strictly NO referrals!)

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I think the 5% VAT is basically covered by WHD (or the £150 PIP support payment) after the cap rise for the average sized bill.
 
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There should be a limit on the number of times fuel is increased. A customer said she drove to her employer’s head office in Nottingham and the same again the following day. The fuel at one station went up three times in two days by 4p.
They probably tracking wholesale and ignoring the price paid for whats still in the tanks at the station. I would agree to some kind of limit on that basis alone.
 
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There should be a limit on the number of times fuel is increased. A customer said she drove to her employer’s head office in Nottingham and the same again the following day. The fuel at one station went up three times in two days by 4p.
Maybe they had a delivery between visits
 
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I don't pay by DD I pay manually every month since green went bust and they moved me to Shell energy. They can go do one if I am giving them what they want.
 
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Feels like the BBC and other news orgs are playing a blind eye to the cost of living. Nothing on the news homepage despite surpassing £2 per litre. It feels like we're sleep walking off a cliff (the cliff being this winter). We could all be preparing for winter right now, funding extra loft insulation in our roofs etc
 
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I don't pay by DD I pay manually every month since green went bust and they moved me to Shell energy. They can go do one if I am giving them what they want.

Don't you pay more per unit for not being on dd? It's enough of an increase to put me off the idea.

Speak to supplier and switch to whole amount monthly or something.
 
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Err, maybe? To be honest with you I didn't bother to look. It might be true but either way I can manage how much they get off me.

I cant' find any information on if its more expensive...

EDIT - I found this https://help.shellenergy.co.uk/hc/e...129-Why-is-it-cheaper-to-pay-by-Direct-Debit-

But I am not sure what it actually means. I just pay online every month, not with cash or yee oldie cheque
Direct Debit is cheaper, you get a slight discount 2-3%, the unit rates are ever so slightly lower.
You can pay by whole amount so you pay for your exact bill to the penny every month, basically the same as you are doing now but its automatic by a direct debit payment.
DD's are cheaper due to being a more "secure" payment so the energy companies know they are going to get the payment on a set date.
 
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I think I will take that 2 or 3% for the control lol
You can setup the whole amount DD so you get the discount and then just manually pay the bill online when it comes through as you do now, literally nothing changes for you. The payment is taken 10 days after the bill is produced, so if you pay it before then no payment will come out as the balance on the account will be £0. You will technically have a direct debit but it will never actually do anything.

Think how many pints those few % will add up to :D
 
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I think I will take that 2 or 3% for the control lol
But really the control comes from how much you energy you consume. If you don't want big bills, don't use a lot of energy. Even though it's only around 3%, you're still paying over the odds for your energy.

You mention that you like the control, but really it's just costing you more money. Just average out your annual usage, divide by 12 and set your direct to the next £5-10. If you take monthly meter readings, you will soon know if your direct debit needs tweaking.
 
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Feels like the BBC and other news orgs are playing a blind eye to the cost of living. Nothing on the news homepage despite surpassing £2 per litre. It feels like we're sleep walking off a cliff (the cliff being this winter). We could all be preparing for winter right now, funding extra loft insulation in our roofs etc
A lot of higher up people at the BBC and other media outlets are heavily invested in property. They don't want to keep drawing people's attention too much to the cost of living as that only reinforces the fact that much higher interest rates are required. This would affect their personal wealth.

The BBC in particular will hide behind their "diversity" agenda as a reason for not forcing very serious issues very often.
 
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But really the control comes from how much you energy you consume. If you don't want big bills, don't use a lot of energy. Even though it's only around 3%, you're still paying over the odds for your energy.

You mention that you like the control, but really it's just costing you more money. Just average out your annual usage, divide by 12 and set your direct to the next £5-10. If you take monthly meter readings, you will soon know if your direct debit needs tweaking.

The problem is you can't just set your dd without using whole amount monthly. The providers will keep switching it around on you if they think it's not right via algorithm.

Setup whole amount monthly dd then you just get billed for actual usage, it's the cheapest unit rate and no credit or debit gets built up.
 
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im still on pre payment meter and topped up the max before the new charges come in, SSE said they wont back track the new fees when i next top up, if this lasts me till prices rise again, ill have a heart attack at how much my electric has gone up
 
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I really think some of you guys need to change energy companies if they are taking the pi.. too much. I don't mind Octopus having a few quid of my credit.... the flip side is I have been in debit for months at a time as well however I have found their customer support to be excellent and they are happy to manually reduce my payments so long as I am not in arrears with the warning that if I go into negative they will up it.... and that is fair enough.
right now I am £77 in credit. I have been £120 in arrears these margins are kept with fairly minimal effort on my part.. I know different people's circumstances are different but with so much other crap going on is it really worth stressing over octopus having say £100 of my money in credit. it's not like I won't get it back so we are talking pennies of interest which will balance out in winter anyway.
people fighting to get back £500 sure I get it..... (and like I say if they are being a pain about it then move. - octopus will even give you and a referrer £50 credit) .. but for £100 or less I don't see the issue
 
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im still on pre payment meter and topped up the max before the new charges come in, SSE said they wont back track the new fees when i next top up, if this lasts me till prices rise again, ill have a heart attack at how much my electric has gone up
Did you top your key up to the max also ?
 
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£400 in credit with ovo I normally reduce the excess in the summer months it's a nice was to stick some cash away each month but with coming price rises I am leaving it there with dd staying at £250pm
 
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