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After reading what he says I believe he is basically saying "we cant win this"

He recognises the damage it's doing to the country and the world is against them so the isolation that this brings isn't good.

He is also telling the people watching that Ukrain can mobilise and, with the lend lease program, arm 1 million people to defend their homeland.

This could very well get him poisoned, anyone watching that broadcast are thinking twice now.

Would like to see any replies to that on the program. Plant an opposing 'reasoned' argument that gives voice to some of the rumor's that have filtered through then systematically destroy it through rhetoric.
 
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Past 1hr:
*U.S. Treasury’s Yellen Asks U.S. Partners to Increase Financial Support for Ukraine — Brussels Economic Forum Speech
*Yellen: Ukraine Faces Months Before Substantial Tax Collections Can Resume, Needs to Keep Govt Operating
*Yellen: Financial Support for Ukraine Announced so Far Will Not Be Sufficient for Short-Term Needs
*Yellen: U.S. Committed to Work With Europe to Meet Its Energy Needs, Help Break Dependence on Russian Energy
*Yellen: Ukraine Will Need to Turn Soon to Repairing Utilities, Critical Services
*Yellen: More Work Needed to Get Global Tax Reform Over Finish Line, Resolve Open Issues on ‘Pillar 1’ Taxing Rights
*Yellen: Coal, Fossil Fuel Usage Likely to See Uptick, Efforts to Transition to New Energy Sources Should Be Redoubled
*Yellen: U.S, Allies Should Cooperate on Sourcing Critical Materials, Reduce Reliance on China
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/yellen-calls-allies-step-up-funding-ukraine-2022-05-17/

*Lower House of Russian Parliament May Ban Exchange of “Nationalist Criminals” From Ukraine’s Azov Regiment for Russian Servicemen — Duma’s Telegram Channel
*Russian Foreign Minister: Russia Does Not Plan to Block YouTube — IFX
*Russian Foreign Minister: Russia Expels Two Finnish Diplomats

*OPEC+ Production Was 2.6 mln bpd Below Required Level in April — Report
*Russia Produced 1.28 mln bpd Below Required Level in April According to OPEC+ Secondary Sources — Report

*Ukraine Presidential Adviser Podolyak: Talks on Evacuating More Azovstal Defenders Are Very Difficult, but There Is Hope
*Ukraine Presidential Adviser Podolyak: Mariupol Holding Out for 82 Days Changed Course of War

*Kremlin: Russian Fertiliser Producers Are Trying to Fulfil Contracts, Sanctions Against Them Pose Risk to Global Food Security
*Kremlin: Putin Has Guaranteed That Those Who Surrendered at Ukraine’s Azovstal Will Be Treated According to International Standards
*Kremlin: It Would Be ‘Outright Theft’ for G7 and EU to Use Frozen Russian Reserves on Behalf of Ukraine
*Kremlin: Such a Move Would Be Illegal and Require an Appropriate Response
 
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Would like to see any replies to that on the program. Plant an opposing 'reasoned' argument that gives voice to some of the rumor's that have filtered through then systematically destroy it through rhetoric.
That's how it looks to me, too. She (Olga Skabeyeva) was speaking Russian, but I couldn't help the feeling I was hearing a Fiona Bruce or LBC presenter. She first interrupts with a "both sides" for "balance" when Mikhail goes off script (Ukraine lacking financing/arms is a big factor you can't leave out).

Then later on puts an absurd yes/no question to the guest (is a desire to die for one's country professionalism) to derail the talk. I've seen it time and time again. Journalists everywhere on these panel shows use the same tactics regardless of language, to the point where I don't watch/listen to them.

So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he's there as controlled opposition (not literally a puppet, but chosen because they can "control" the response to him). He raises his profile amongst anti-war guys, pro-war guys feel better watching him get humiliated and, deliberately or accidentally, he helps steer the conversation away from casualties, and towards isolation.

We'd need to see the rest of it, but I'd expect she'd try to bog him down in semantics. Maybe pop off another "innocent" yes/no question, so the headlines tomorrow discuss it rather than challenge Mikhail's points. It's funny, because it looks so organic, till you're absolutely against what they're peddling, i.e. invasion.
 
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*German Chancellor Scholz Discussed Military and Humanitarian Situation in Ukraine With Zelenskiy in Phone Call — Spokesperson
*Scholz, Zelenskiy Made Clear in Phone Call That Negotiated Solution Is Only Possible With Immediate End to Fighting by Russia, Withdrawal of Troops — Spokesperson

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*Finland’s Gas Operator Gasum: We Will Seek to Ensure Availability of Natural Gas for Finnish Clients via Balticconnector Pipeline From Other Sources via Estonia During Upcoming Summer

*Russian Lawmaker Slutsky Says in Parliament That Azov ‘War Criminals’ Deserve Death Penalty
 
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That's how it looks to me, too. She (Olga Skabeyeva) was speaking Russian, but I couldn't help the feeling I was hearing a Fiona Bruce or LBC presenter. She first interrupts with a "both sides" for "balance" when Mikhail goes off script (Ukraine lacking financing/arms is a big factor you can't leave out).

Then later on puts an absurd yes/no question to the guest (is a desire to die for one's country professionalism) to derail the talk. I've seen it time and time again. Journalists everywhere on these panel shows use the same tactics regardless of language, to the point where I don't watch/listen to them.

So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he's there as controlled opposition (not literally a puppet, but chosen because they can "control" the response to him). He raises his profile amongst anti-war guys, pro-war guys feel better watching him get humiliated and, deliberately or accidentally, he helps steer the conversation away from casualties, and towards isolation.

We'd need to see the rest of it, but I'd expect she'd try to bog him down in semantics. Maybe pop off another "innocent" yes/no question, so the headlines tomorrow discuss it rather than challenge Mikhail's points. It's funny, because it looks so organic, till you're absolutely against what they're peddling, i.e. invasion.

Well put and probably correct. It worries me that people seem to collate Russia's failings on the battlefield with those of the 'secret world' as Le Cárre put it. One could make the argument that no country on earth does espionage better (both domestically and internationally) then Russia. Cultural persuasion has been a key policy for the better part of a century. I doubt that any subterfuge is tolerated internally unless it can be spun to fit a specific narrative that works for them.
 
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Very interesting Twitter thread here, showing how Russian media is gradually conceding that this war is not going Putin's way.

In an extremely rare moment of candour on Russian state TV today, defence columnist Mikhail Khodaryonok gave a damning assessment of Russia's war in Ukraine and his country's international isolation.

Many of you have seen this video, in which Mikhail Khodaryonok gives a damning assessment of Russia's war. 20 days before the war started he wrote an article forecasting almost everything that would happen and slamming Russian optimism.
 
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Very interesting Twitter thread here, showing how Russian media is gradually conceding that this war is not going Putin's way.

Guy made a lot of good calls. Even entertained the idea of another WW2 style lend-lease.

Surprised to see there was no mention of the Ukranians getting kitted out with NLAWS right after Crimea, and how this training has been cascaded down over the years. More so given his opinion on urban warfare. I think Russian hubris, is so boundless that this operation was probably laughed off the table, (lol, 'tiny' island) assuming it was considered at all that it.
 
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A movie will definitely be made about Chornobaivka, no need for making a parody though as a documentary will do just fine.
 
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Mykola Kulichenko (left) claimed he was hauled out of his house along with his brothers in the village of Dovzhyk, close to the north eastern city of Chernihiv, by Putin's forces on March 18 - just two weeks before the Russian army retreated from the region. They underwent three days of brutal interrogation before being shot. His brothers died immediately, but Mykola miraculously survived after the bullet pierced his cheek and exited behind his ear, causing relatively minor damage. The trio were thrown into a pit (top right) and lightly covered in dirt after Mykola played dead - but he later managed to wriggle free and avoid a slow, painful death from asphyxiation.

 
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