Vogue magazine threatens to sue a 200-year-old PUB.

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Conde Nast, the publisher of Vogue, has reportedly sent a 'cease and desist' letter to family-run Star Inn at Vogue, a hamlet near the leafy civil parish of St Day, Cornwall.
Publicans Mark and Rachel Graham were ordered to stop using the homonymous name of the Cornish hamlet to prevent confusing the glossy magazine's readers.

Signed off by Conde Nast's chief operating officer Sabine Vandenbroucke, the letter notes her 'grave concern' that Vogue the hamlet could cause a mix-up in global trade for the fashion bible of the same name.

The letter reads: 'Our company is the proprietor of the Vogue mark, not only for its world-famous magazine first published in November 1916 but in respect of other goods and services offered to the public by our company.

'We are concerned that the name which you are using is going to cause problems because as far as the general public is concerned a connection between your business and ours is likely to be inferred.'

But Mr Graham, 60, said he could scarcely believe it when he received the warning, telling CornwallLive: 'It seems common sense has taken a backseat on this one.

'When I opened the letter I thought some b****r in the village was having me on', he added.

'Surely these people can't be serious? In this day and age, someone couldn't be bothered to go onto Google and see that Vogue is a Cornish hamlet that's been here for hundreds of years.'

Ms Vandenbroucke's letter, dated March 1, 2022, also asked Mark and Rachel to provide more information about what type of business the Star Inn Vogue pub is about and any imagery it uses to make sure it obviously can't be confused with the magazine.

At the end it adds threateningly: 'Please reply within seven days or we will take remedial action.'

Mark, who thought some of his punters were having a laugh at his expense, did reply with a long missive - complete with a selection of photos of the pub and street names found in the area, bearing the name Vogue.

He and his wife have run the pub successfully for the past 17 years, and says he's not concerned about Conde Nast's letter.

He thinks Vogue's confused state may have arisen when he and his wife decided to change their trading status from a partnership to a limited company and the name popped up on Companies House and suddenly Condé Nast went into a fashion flap.

In his letter to the New York publisher's London offices, the publican said: 'Whilst I found your letter interesting on the one hand, I also found it hilariously funny.

'I presume your magazine bases its name on the dictionary term for being in fashion which is uncapitalised as used in the Oxford English Dictionary.

'If a member of your staff had taken the time to investigate they would have discovered that our company, the Star Inn, is in the small village of Vogue, near St Day, Cornwall.

'Yes, that's right, Vogue is the name of our village, which has been in existence for hundreds of years and in fact is a Cornish word, not English.

'I note in your letter that you have only been in existence since 1916 and I presume that at the time when you chose the name Vogue in the capitalised version you didn't seek permission from the villagers of the real Vogue.

'I also presume that Madonna did not seek your permission to use the word Vogue (again the capitalised version) for her 1990s song of the same name.

'You are both at liberty to use the uncapitalised version without our permission. As a side note she didn't seek our permission either.'

Mark concluded saying: 'In answer to your question whether we would change our name, it is a categorical NO.'

Made me smile, I hope others too… :D

In a serious note, where do these large corporate entities get off? Does anyone in such an organisation not do any homework before threatening to get the lawyers involved?

I have to say, the landlords response is simply superb. :D

Quoted from the Daily Fail.
 
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Seems like an appropriate response, I hope they do have their own fashion week or start selling some merchandise! :D
 
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Pub should send counter cease and desist, they've been around longer so the pointless magazine should be closed down incase someone thinks it's a 200 year old pub magazine.

The pub won't have a magazine. How many pubs do, especially small ones? The village that the pub's in and the surrounding parish area could have a magazine, though. The village and parish that's called Vogue and has been for at least 500 years. Probably longer than that. It's a very old name. The pub itself is called The Star Inn. At Vogue, because it's in the village of Vogue. So the magazine's lawyers should have sent the cease and desist letter to the village for using time travel to infringe the magazine's copyright rather than to the pub for using time travel to infringe the magazine's copyright.

My cunning plan (a plan so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel) is to start a magazine called "London" and then sue the entire London urban area for breach of copyright. London has a GDP larger than most countries, so I reckon I'll be a billionaire by the end of the week!

More seriously, this isn't really as silly as it sounds. Companies are required to defend their copyrights, especially ones as weak as a magazine copyrighting a pre-existing word in the language used by the magazine. So their lawyers often knee-jerk cease and desist letters because that's a cheap and effective threat. They probably use bots for it nowadays. Even if they don't, it's still cheaper than doing their job properly although sometimes the resulting negative publicity can cost a lot more. But that can be accounted for seperately and thus not affect the usual fetishising of cutting costs at all costs.
 
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What Vogue (magazine) is doing is what's known as as "copyright troll". It happens quite often.

Because the village had that name first, they should take precedent. For some reason though, it doesn't always go in their favour.

For example, a drinks company made a product called Frozone back in 2008. Even though 2008 was 5 years before Disney's Frozen came out in 2013 and Frozen wasn't even the film's working title back then, Disney still took Frozone to the cleaners and won.
 
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What Vogue (magazine) is doing is what's known as as "copyright troll". It happens quite often.

Because the village had that name first, they should take precedent. For some reason though, it doesn't always go in their favour.

For example, a drinks company made a product called Frozone back in 2008. Even though 2008 was 5 years before Disney's Frozen came out in 2013 and Frozen wasn't even the film's working title back then, Disney still took Frozone to the cleaners and won.

Are you trolling now? Frozone was a character in the Incredibles from 2004. I googled frozone and thats what came up. Nothing to do with frozen
 
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